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  1. odi144

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    99% survival rate.

    Not 99% you're gonna die.

    Understand now?
     
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    1. submissively speaking
      What’s 1% of the overall population in the country you reside? The actual number.
       
    2. 1 Toy Maker
      The average is over one percent
       
      1 Toy Maker, Jul 30, 2021
    3. stumbler
      Deaths:
      629,072
       
      stumbler, Jul 31, 2021
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      World wide 4.2 million claimed. This doesn't account for the 4 million that India hasn't bothered to count.
       
      1 Toy Maker, Jul 31, 2021
    5. crhurricane
      Well who did count ?
      Who actually knows what was not counted?

      Emm 4 million sounds good, ;)

      It's not the trust in numbers, it is trusting those who count. I don't, that makes it easy.
       
      crhurricane, Aug 1, 2021
  2. odi144

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    Let's say it's 100, 1 person will die because of the hong Kong flu. 99 will survive.

    Sounds like normal numbers for the flu.

    Because it's a form of the flu!!!!
     
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      How many?
       
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    USA, millions, your point?
     
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      The point is not moot; it is germane to the argument.

      Don’t want to have the argument? There’s a simple answer for that. Don’t engage. Obviously there are others who disagree.

      The definition of ‘overwhelmingly in favour’ might be debatable, depending upon your perspective. Like if you’re living with long covid, for example.
       
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      Perspective is everything.
      Yes some people have died. Yes some people have had long term effects. Yes getting the vaccine makes sense to most people.
      But, no, not everyone will get seriously sick or die from the virus, in fact the odds are low that you will get it. Further the odds are very low that the illness will cause hospitalization and extremely low that it will cause ICU stays or death.

      Why do you refuse to acknowledge these facts?

      The vaccines do reduce the low odds even further, they make sense, to refuse them is rather stupid. Unless you are one of the few who are either ineligible or unable to receive it.
       
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    4. submissively speaking
      You’ve been through 3 waves now, a fourth is on the way, and I’m the one refusing to acknowledge the facts? Are you for real?

      Never once - no matter how gleefully shooter like to holler it - have I said everyone will die. Not once.

      But see, here’s the thing: too many will. Too many, as a result of the lack of prep or the outright refusal to adopt safe protocols.

      Those are either fucknuts whose shouts of ‘freedom!’ get real quiet when faced with being put on a vent or the victims of their fucknuttery.

      Now, the former? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I no longer care, don’t give a shit.

      The latter I care about. The latter I actively work too many hours to protect, alongside the healthcare workers who get overwhelmed when there’s too many of both. I care very much about those folks.

      Shrugging and saying ‘not everyone will die’ is a luxury of the ignorant. Because at the end of the day, it’s you folk that’ll look to Public Health and ask why they couldn’t do better.
       
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      Perspective lol. Try understanding. Understand that we don't know what tomorrow holds. Understand that we do know how viruses work, we know how they mutate and change. Today it might be a 15% infection rate with a 1% death rate. Delta is already more infectious than those than came before, what happens when there is a further mutation?
       
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    6. shootersa
      As some smart laddie said once, it's a recession when your neighbor is laid off. It's a depression when you get laid off.

      Pretty much the same with Covid. It's the flu when your neighbor catches it. It's a pandemic when you catch it.
       
      shootersa, Aug 1, 2021
  4. odi144

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    Glad you asked. I don't have actual numbers but I knew this hong Kong flu was BS from the beginning.

    I know numbers are about the same.

    Let me ask you, or all of the believers in the hong Kong flu a question.

    The flu vaccine has been around since when, 40's 50's?

    Has the flu gone away?
     
    1. submissively speaking
      What numbers are about the same? You’ve got to be kidding me.

      What’s the uptake rate on the flu vaccine?

      How about polio? What’s the uptake on the polio vaccine?
       
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    Tell you what, call off work, tell your boss you only have a 99% chance of making it in, there's a 1% chance that you could get in a car crash and die.

    See how long you have a job doing this.
     
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      Tell you what, start talking like you have any fucking idea what you’re talking about, and I’ll stop asking you direct questions.
       
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    You can look the facts up.

    The flu vaccine did not make the flu go away.

    If you think I'm gonna be scared by a form of the flu with a 99% survival rate I've got news for you, it's about Santa Claus, and you won't be happy.
     
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      Vaccine doesn’t make something ‘go away’.

      Sweet fancy crackers, somebody give this fellow a sound bite that makes sense.
       
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      Actually you can just look at this thread to not only prove you have no idea what you are talking about and everything you are saying has been proven false about a half dozen times on this thread alone.
       
      stumbler, Jul 31, 2021
  7. odi144

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    Well the media is wanting all the branch covidians to take the vaccine, giving free food and other stuff if you take it.
     
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    Worked all the way through it, 1918 Spanish flu mutated to less harmful when it realised it was killing its hosts, and they didn't know what a virus was in 1918 killed 90 million, the earth needs a cull every now and then, no wars keeping the numbers down and living too long
     
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    * CDC figures for the total deaths seem to show a decline in 2021. In a real pandemic, that would not be the case! The total number of deaths would increase! The decrease in 2021 suggests that COVID-19 is actually saving lives!

    * It seems that the number of influenza deaths has fallen to zero. That is more evidence that the Establishment is pasting the COVID-1984 label on ordinary influenza deaths. Why? -- to keep people in a constant panic.

    I write "seems" because I question all of the numbers I see. It will take years to sort things out and determine what the real numbers are. But one thing I know is this: The Establishment often lies. All of its wars begin with huge lies. The NHS leak in Britain is hard evidence that the Establishment is lying about COVID-19 as well.

    But what could the motive be? What was the motive in 2003, when the New York Times and the rest of the media chorus pushed the lie about "Iraqi WMDs"? The motive becomes clear when we understand the nature of the Establishment. It is a global criminal enterprise that profits from war and terror. It developed out of the British Empire, the empire that got much of China hooked on opium. It includes rogue elements from the CIA and similar organizations.

    * Think about this: When the U.S. invaded Afghanistan in 2001, opium production there was near zero. A year later, Afghanistan was producing a bumper poppy crop, with the fields protected by U.S. soldiers.

    * And think about this: The Downing Street Memo shows that Bush and Blair knew that the "Iraqi WMDs" story was a concocted lie. But that didn't stop them from making war, war that left a million Iraqis dead and cost trillions of dollars off-budget. Where did that vast sum of money go? It went to the people who invest in war -- i.e., to the global Establishment. Do you think these investors care about Americans? Did they care about the thousands of American soldiers they sent to die in Iraq? They are loyal to money and power and that's it, and COVID-19 gives them an opportunity to destroy the U.S. economy and buy it back, pennies on the dollar.

    But that's just my opinion. And what do I know?
     
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      Shooter, as an aside, is becoming sure that redsquare is one of those russian bots trying to spread misinformation.
      Whether it is true or not, shooter will be suspicous of redsquare going forward.
       
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      You think?
       
    4. RedSquare
      @shootersa : "russian bots trying to spread misinformation"

      Yes, it's all so Obvious! Like all of these dreadful Russian Bots, I take a name that reflects fondness for the old Soviet Union, I cite articles in RT -- and, most important, I disagree with the Omnipotent Establishment, something that we Americans should Never Ever do!

      The Establishment is our Lord God and Master, don't you see, and if people discover that it is not God after all, then Who Knows What Will Happen? People might start thinking for themselves, and that would be the End of America. And then the Russians would finally Come! And we would lose our Most Important Freedom: The Freedom to Live in Fear of Russians Coming.
       
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    Delta variant raises fears of worsening mutations



    The rapid spread of the delta variant is raising concerns among scientists that the coronavirus could mutate into more transmissible or deadlier strains.

    The fresh fears come as the U.S. vaccination rate has largely plateaued and with much of the world still unvaccinated. Such a large number of people without even one vaccine dose gives the virus more chances to spread, replicate and potentially develop mutations.

    Experts say that while mutations are not a certainty, the odds will remain high unless more vaccines are administered. And they warn that the highly transmissible delta variant, which came from mutations, could seem tame in comparison to future strains.

    In announcing the new mask guidance this week, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) Director Rochelle Walensky addressed the anxiety among public health experts over whether potential mutations might be able to bypass existing COVID-19 vaccines.

    “Right now, fortunately, we are not there,” Walensky said. “These vaccines operate really well in protecting us from severe disease and death.”

    “But the big concern is that the next variant that might emerge, just a few mutations potentially away, could potentially evade our vaccines,” she added.

    When COVID-19 spreads, the virus replicates its genetic material to infect more cells. In the process, that material sometimes mutates from the original strain.

    Andrew Pekosz, a professor of molecular microbiology and immunology at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, said the virus mutates randomly but at a steady rate.

    Most changes do not help or inhibit the virus’s ability to spread, but “very, very infrequently” its genetic material alters to give it the upper hand, he said.

    It’s “incredibly difficult to predict” when these mutations will occur, Pekosz said, adding that the opportunities for alterations increase in areas where the virus can spread easily.

    “Until we make sure that the virus can't freely replicate in the population anywhere in the world, we're always going to have that increased likelihood of mutations occurring,” he said.

    The World Health Organization has classified four strains as variants of concern that give the virus an advantage: the alpha, beta, gamma and delta variants. Another four strains are labeled as variants of interest, which could possibly benefit the virus.

    Officials and experts widely view immediate vaccinations in the U.S. and around the world as the best way to reduce the risk of more harmful variants from developing.

    “Now is the time for people to get vaccinated,” Assistant Secretary of Health Rachel Levine told Washington Post Live on Friday. “That's the best way to protect against the development of these variants.”

    That message is being delivered in some hard-hit states as well.


    Louisiana’s top medical official, Joseph Kanter, emphasized that while the COVID-19 vaccines are effective against the delta strain, that may not be the case with other variants.

    “There's no guarantee that future variants will provide us that opportunity,” he told reporters on Thursday.

    The seven-day U.S. average in vaccinations leveled off in the past few weeks to more than 500,000 doses per day before jumping to 615,000 on Thursday. Still, the rate is a dramatic drop-off from its peak of 3.3 million doses per day in mid-April, according to Our World in Data.

    Less than half of the U.S. population is fully vaccinated, including less than 58 percent of Americans 12 and older who are eligible to get the shots.

    The emergence of a variant that could evade the existing vaccines would pose an “ultra serious” problem, said William Schaffner, a professor of infectious diseases at the Vanderbilt University Medical Center.

    “Then we would have to create a new vaccine to match that new variant,” he said. “That’s not so tough. The technology is there. That would be done within a month or two. But then we would have to give this new vaccine to everybody. We’d have to start all over again.”

    Only 14.2 percent of the global population is fully vaccinated against COVID-19, leaving much of the world more at risk. President Biden has committed to sending millions of donated doses abroad to accelerate the world’s vaccination effort.

    Peter Hotez, dean of the National School of Tropical Medicine at Baylor College of Medicine, said that if vaccines were ready for the world at the same time as in the U.S., “potentially we could have forestalled or prevented” the delta variant.

    Still, he said the kinds of mutations in current variants suggest that the virus’s evolution is not selecting changes that are “completely resistant” to the vaccines in use now.

    “I'm hoping what that means is that we won't see a doomsday COVID-19 that's completely resistant to all of our vaccines,” he said. “I don't think that's gonna happen.”

    Experts agree that the CDC’s updated mask guidance could help prevent the formation of harmful new variants, as masking offers an additional layer of protection.

    Former Food and Drug Administration Commissioner Scott Gottlieb predicted on CNBC that the U.S. would get through the worst of the delta variant within a few weeks, adding that the CDC’s new recommendations could have a “negligible impact.”

    But some experts expressed uncertainty, pointing to how quickly the state of the pandemic could change, especially with schools across the country returning in-person in the next few weeks.

    “It may be that we can, that we'll see something peaking ... in the next week or two of delta,” said Pekosz of Johns Hopkins. “But when we move back inside in the fall, that's another opportunity for a resurgence to occur.”

    https://thehill.com/policy/healthca...a-variant-raises-fears-of-worsening-mutations
     
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      Yes.
      Do you believe the CDC figure?
       
      shootersa, Aug 1, 2021
    3. 1 Toy Maker
      It's obvious that you can read so why don't you go read about it and stop with the senseless questions when all the answers are easily available. Or...... Are you just sowing stupid division?
       
      1 Toy Maker, Aug 1, 2021
    4. shootersa
      Shooter can read.
      Quite well.
      Not the point.
      The question is what you believe in terms of what CDC is putting out.
      Do you believe CDC when they say the chances of a breakthrough covid is 0.01%?

      Nevermind. Shooter didn't mean to trigger you.
       
      shootersa, Aug 1, 2021
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      Okay you can read, so I'll go with stupid as my first response to you was quite definitive.
       
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    We will never actually know the true amount of infected people that die from covid. In the poor and rural communities they rely on herb doctors and some don't even bother going to the doctor so their passings aren't even noted. There are more and more studies coming out that are equating the massive up turn in dead people with Corona Virus. On the mathematical side of it I tend to agree that if the numbers of dead people are correctly recorded and there is a sharp rise in the unexplained deaths for the same period then they are probably casualties of covid. Seeing as the reports are numbers into the millions I believe that there has to be some truth in them.
     
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    1. shootersa
      Did you read about cardiac deaths in Colorado?
      Early in the pandemic elective surgeries were canceled, including cardiac surgeries.

      People suffering chest pains who would normally go to the hospital didn't want to chance contracting covid so they stayed home.
      And died.
      In Colorado this kind of death is normally not investigated and autopsies only happen if the family requests and pays for it.
      The state noted a significant decrease in cardiac deaths as a result.
       
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      There is also the decrease in drunk driving deaths.
       
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  12. odi144

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    Elephant version coming, after that, F, people are really buying this bs?

    Get a life and don't buy everything the media is trying to make you believe.

    How stupid is everyone to think that a virus with a 99% survival rate needs to make everyone go crazy?

    1% survival rate I can understand. Everyone didn't die. Hoax. Hoax.

    Get it now?
     
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    1. submissively speaking
      May the odds ever be in your favour.
       
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      Lambda is the next variant on the watch list from WHO it's currently trashing South America.
       
      1 Toy Maker, Aug 1, 2021
    3. RedSquare
      > Buy this Lovely Used Car Now, Today!
      > If you wait until tomorrow, you might be Dead! And other people will be dead too!
      > All of my colleagues in the showroom Agree that you need to buy this car!
      > If you disagree, you're a Typhoid Mary Terrorist
      > Sorry, we don't allow Test Drives here. You just have to Trust Us.
       
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      Copy paste....
       
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    Actually the one that doesn't get it is you spouting false propaganda without the fainest clue about what y9u are talking about. And I am not going to bother to post the proof of that after your bullshit false propaganda has already been debunked over and over and over again on this thread.

    And I am sure you will not even bother to look because you are another one that believes things are so just because you say so.
     
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    I have a healthy immune system and not afraid of a form of the flu with a 99% survival rate.

    Keep buying what the media is selling and have a good day.
     
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      I have a healthy diking system. Does that mean I get to drive drunk?
       
      stumbler, Aug 1, 2021
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      They still let you drive?:D
       
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    Try this one. Listen to all the screaming that mandated vaccines is un American. Really? Then why was the first mass mandated inoculation ordered by George Washington in the Revolutionary War? And the date breaks the irony meter.

    George Washington and the First Mass Military Inoculation

    On the 6th of January 1777, George Washington wrote to Dr. William Shippen Jr., ordering him to inoculate all of the forces that came through Philadelphia. He explained that: "Necessity not only authorizes but seems to require the measure, for should the disorder infect the Army . . . we should have more to dread from it, than from the Sword of the Enemy." The urgency was real. Troops were scarce and encampments had turned into nomadic hospitals of festering disease, deterring further recruitment. Both Benedict Arnold and Benjamin Franklin, after surveying the havoc wreaked by Variola in the Canadian campaign, expressed fears that the virus would be the army's ultimate downfall. (Fenn 2001, 69)

    https://www.loc.gov/rr/scitech/GW&smallpoxinoculation.html
     
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      So, you think we have "evolved" from a general mandating the vaccination of his troops to a government mandating the vaccination of the entire population?
      And that this is a good thing?
      No matter.
      According to stumbler its a "shithole country" anyway.
       
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    Americans CIVILIANS....were never govt lemmings dutifully obeying govt edict, ...since the days of Washington, its the obligation of the MILITARY to follow medical orders to protect the freedom of civilians from govt edicts
     
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    Has the flu gone away? There's a vaccine for it right?
     
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      We were mandated at work to get a flu shot, flu still here, covid will never be eradicated, as the old, low immune system get the flu, so will people get covid
       
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